Inspirational

Tigress1979 · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: Inspirational

Subject: Fw: Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:16:53 -0500

Is God Evil? - This one is well worth reading!

A university professor challenged his students with this question.

"Did God create everything that exists?"

A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created
evil, since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works
define who we are, then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an
answer. The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question
professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never
been cold?"

The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to
the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of
heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit
energy.
Absolute zero (- 460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all
matter
becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold
does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have
no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir. Darkness does not
exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can
study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white
light
unto many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You
cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world
of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space
is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct?
Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light
present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already
said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity
to man.
It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it
does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just
like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that
exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when
man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold
that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is
no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name --- Albert Einstein
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Ieaadas · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject:

haha, nice Sucka got served by the best. lol
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Jenny · Member Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 2916

I'm glad you got a laugh out of it.
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fasterfind · Member Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 82

The precise attention to detail definately sounds like a scientific mind at work. Albert actually said quite a bit both for and against religion. One thing that is apparent is that he definately respected it. He never took it for granted, but in his later years, he is known to have made numerous statements that religion and science can not only co-exist, but they support each other and that the study of one, can lead to revelations in the other. He definately also saw a strong need for relgion in the world in order to provide and justify morality. He stated that science is the study of the way things are... and religion is the study of the way things should be.

The way things should be. I use that definition myself, now.

I recently flipped through a few biographies on Einstein. He definately had a great mind which was never committed to any all encompasing ideas. Perhaps, that's what helped him revolutionize physics when the world had gone about as far as it could go with it's current set of rules and understanding. He brought us outside of the box. He was an incredible philosopher that didn't just blurt stuff out, but thought about it and backed it up with reason.

I think the majority of Einsteins in this world are quiet thinkers and inventors that work in a back office for a big company and don't get very much recognition, fame, or leverage to speak their minds to the world. I'm not aware of any such modern geniuses except perhaps the inventor of the Segway. He has some interesting facts as well. He has a closet full of the same outfit so he can wake up and get dressed while keeping his mind on other things.

So when you see that guy wearing the same outfit every day - maybe he's not really unsanitary = )

But I know I am. I'm just lazy. Smell my stink!
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Daiv Scamius · Member Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 67 Location: Michigan

That was a sweet post.... You mind if I copy it and use it else where?
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fasterfind · Member Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 82

Sure sure, you can use my post anytime, anywhere, jsut give me lots of credit.....

oh....

oh... you meant the post by the OTHER guy?

I'll go back to my corner now.
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Jenny · Member Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 2916

Ahem. It goes without saying. No I don't think I can do use my post anytime anywhere jsut give me lots of credit.
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fasterfind · Member Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 82

Jenny... there's a stain on your dress.
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Jenny · Member Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 2916

""? Me, fasterfind ?
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Phinneas · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:48 am Post subject:

Evil is simply the absence of God. /salute
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fasterfind · Member Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 82

Yes, Jenny, I think I saw a stain.

Evil as absence of good, dark/cold as absence of light/warmth.
Interesting ideas.

But could Good be the absence of evil?

Light can't really be the absense of dark, and warmth really isn't the absense of cold so....

Perhaps you can inverse evil to get good, but you can't inverse dark to get light, or cold to get wamth.

So maybe, good/evil isn't a measure of 1 thing, but a mixture of two things.

cold/warm and dark/light aren't mixtures of two things. So then they don't make a good comparison to good/evil.

Jenny/STaiN
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Jenny · Member Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 2916

Interesting. It's possible.
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Gheran · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:19 am Post subject:

actually, according to Albert Einstein, it cannot be, evil does not exist, it is a word that was created to define the absense of God, I would take that to mean good is a word created to describe the presence of God. but like darkness and cold, as long as there is a good supply of the inverse, the other simply could not exist.

My own philosophy has been in past that wether you believe in "God" or not, can behaving the way a christian is expected to be a bad thing? what would it hurt if everyone were to just act in this manner? As far as the afterlife goes, if there is a God and and you live the life of a religious man you gain eternal life in heaven, if there is no god, you've not lost a thing....can you say the reverse?
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fasterfind · Member Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 82

It is difficult to make an arguement for nonbelievers as avoiding loss by not believing. I think the biggest loss they face is Sunday time, and the oppertunity cost of not experiencing things which they normally would experience such as perhaps avoiding sex until they are married, and more the risque experiences offered by mankind.

However, the same argument used for belief in the Christian God could be applied to belief in a fictional God as well. However, if I were to make one up, I doubt that I would be able to get any converts with that arguement.

The Christian God is definately something that people either just do or don't go for. I think reinforcement of reasons usually follows rather than preceeds, the choice to believe. That's a statement that few people on either side of the fence like to own up to, but I think that's kinda how most people make decisions about anything. 80% of our justification material for reinforcing the decision comes about after the decision is already made.
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Cirrobin · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: