SP2 for WinXP

Elnrik Talshiar · Member Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Location: Denver, CO

Anyone have info on this?
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Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:55 am Post subject:

Jees, why do you always jump the gun on my announcement posts? Razz

Elnrik Talshiar · Member Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Location: Denver, CO

Cause it's fun. Razz

I installed this today. Everything seems stable, but it doubled my boot time.
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Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:09 am Post subject:

It might be something you've got configured to run at startup that's conflicting with Windows Firewall. In my test environment at work (beefing up to deploy SP2 to the LAN today), boot time is actually improved.

Jerzey · Member Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 35

I read the announcment thread, but couldn't post there. Smile

Any word if SP2 will have complications with *cough* pirated *cough* corporate keys? I remember a couple years ago they more or less nuked computers that used known pirated keys in one of their critical updates. Just wondering if this falls under the same line.

Yarrr Jerzy Izapierat Twisted Evil

Thanks.

Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject:

I doubt it. My pirated VLK is still working with SP2 loaded.

Neffretiri · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject:

Since I work for IP Attorneys ***LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU****

Laughing

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Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:

No one with a clue who uses a computer doesn't want to rip off Microsoft in some way.

Elnrik Talshiar · Member Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Location: Denver, CO

I'm running norton firewall and antivirus. I'm on a wireless lan using 128bit WEP. EVERYTHING loads slower, including my desktop icons. They don't just pop up on the desktop, the OS seems to load each icon one at a time, and slowly.

I'll try killing Norton Firewall and see if that improves boot times, but I'm hesitant to use Microsoft's firewall in it's place. I have a firewall built into my router, and I use it, so maybe I'm being paranoid.

Your thoughts?
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Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject:

Umm, you don't need any software firewall at all. Uninstall Norton and disable Windows Firewall, np!

Elnrik Talshiar · Member Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Location: Denver, CO

But I'm paranoid. /em twitches
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ZigonZagoff · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject:

I too am paranoid. For the longest time I ran a minor software blocker (zone alarms - really nice) and a hardware firewall at the same time.

I still run Zone alarms on one of my systems and run a norton firewall on my wife's ME system. All of this is still behind the hardware firewall. She has control over the norton and my nephew at times has disabled it. But neither of them have control on the hardware firewall - only me and a friend of mine (another computer geek) know the password.

At work we are informed to NOT load the SP2 until they can test the applications and get fixes in place.

Shiloch Veneficus · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

It just doesn't make sense to run software firewall on your PC at home when you're doing it with your router. It's just a waste of overhead on your PC. A firewall is not like a virus scanner, nothing is going to "get through" it, especially if you have remote admin to the router disabled. It blocks network traffic from coming into your LAN. What it actually does is basically "ignore" incoming network traffic.

If you're using a router without a firewall, and it actually responds to internet traffic, you're still mostly safe because the router isn't going to route traffic from the internet on your LAN unless you've specifically set up port forwarding.

Software firewalls (for home users) are for dial-up users, and people who are directly connected to their cable/DSL modem without a router.

I'll tell you what, there is a scenario where I'd run a software firewall on a PC behind a router. If you've got a 13-year-old kid with his own PC on your LAN that constantly downloads porn and 1337 h4ck0rz k00z, you might want to run a software firewall on your PC. That way, his PC won't infect yours with nasty shit that he downloads.

ZigonZagoff · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject:

I don't have a 13 year old - I have a wife that clicks unknown emails. Took forever but now at least she looks to see who has sent her things. She even run spybot and adware every now and then.

Her machine has been infected with viruses a few times and a few times she has had pop ups (clean and porn) show up on her system. She now sees the benefit if running clean and keeping clean because her system is faster.

I also have a 13 year old nephew that uses her system when he visits. He has even installed some of that crap and I have had to go in after him and explain to NOT install it. I don't care if it looks like a cool game or a friend runs it. He still hasn't learned. He only uses my system when I let him play EQ and that is only after I have logged him in.